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How Witness Protection Works | October 27, 2009
Chuck Bryant
Don’t want to get involved.
Josh Clark
Exactly. One of the reasons why is because there is a long-standing tradition of witnesses being murdered when they testify or agree to testify.






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Josh Clark
Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I’m Josh Clark. That there is Charles W. Chuck Bryant!
Chuck Bryant
That there.
Josh Clark
That there. Down the road a piece, etc.
Chuck Bryant
Yes. I am down the road a piece.
Josh Clark
I’m sure you are, Chuck.
Chuck Bryant
I wish.
Josh Clark
Have you ever committed a crime, Charles?
Chuck Bryant
I’ve never been caught or convicted of committing a crime, Josh.
Josh Clark
But you have.
Chuck Bryant
I have never been convicted of a crime.
Josh Clark
Nice, Chuck. Chuck is big on CYA.
Chuck Bryant
Everyone has made a right on red when they shouldn’t have. Sure, yeah, I’ve committed a crime.
Josh Clark
Everyone who listens to this podcast knows that I started out early as a thief and stopped shortly afterward. Remember the firecrackers in the Pac Man shirt?
Chuck Bryant
Ah, yeah, sure. Shoplifter!
Josh Clark
Yes. If you commit a crime, you’ve got your own thing going on. Right?
Chuck Bryant
Sure.
Josh Clark
But what happens if you witness a crime? You’re just some innocent person, and you see somebody shoot somebody else in the head, and blood comes spurting out in like a big arc, and the eyes go glazed, and you’re just standing there watching this, and you get a good look at the person who did it. What do you do?
Chuck Bryant
You get the heck out of there, you call the cops.
Josh Clark
Yeah, that’s a good first step.
Chuck Bryant
And what may end up happening, and I think this is where you’re going is you may end up a witness that has to go to court and testify against this bad person.
Josh Clark
Here’s the thing. Part of our constitution – actually, I don’t know if it’s in the constitution, but let’s say a general protection that any individual has is protection against being coerced into testifying against somebody. It’s an individual’s right to choose whether or not you want to testify. And a lot of people choose not to.
Chuck Bryant
Yeah, very much.
Josh Clark
It’s a big problem, actually. There’s a lot of people who do witness crimes who just say, “I’m not doing it.”