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The digital duo Josh and Chuck deconstruct your world.

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How Traffic Works | June 29, 2010

 
Josh Clark

Oh, gotcha. I thought you were saying these people were paying for this research out of their own paychecks or something.

Chuck Bryant

No, but they’ve sunk $7.2 pounds that I guess the public didn’t know. They thought it was off the table, so they’re kind of in some hot water there.

Josh Clark

They’re in some deep quicksand.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah, they said Gordon Brown and Allister Darling have been caught red-handed planning a spy in the sky system of – spy in the sky.

Josh Clark

Nice. Yeah because – I guess we should probably explain congestion pricing. Basically, every car on the road, I guess when you would go get your vehicle tag or something, you also get a radio frequency identifier, and as you’re driving, some satellite is tracking where you pass through some sector or something like that. All of a sudden, you’re in a toll area, and much like, say, one of those toll passes, you are sent a bill, or you have to set up a credit card or a bank account, attach that to your tag, and it just draws money from it based on however much you drive in there.
In Singapore, when they first instituted there’s, and actually in 1995, they had a flat rate for downtown, which is the most congested. During peak hours, you had to pay $3.00 to just drive around down town. You could drive around all you wanted. And as they’ve gotten better at it, they’re getting a little fancy shmancy with it, like, well, if you want to drive here, it’s $1.75 for 20 minutes, but two blocks over it’s just .50 cents, and so on.

Chuck Bryant

Well, that’s one of the rubs. One of the big things is, in England at least, and in other places too, I think they’ve suggested paying more for peak hour so it would be flexible in your work schedule. But then, of course, people that are a friend of the poor say that’s progressive taxation because white collar dudes can be all flexible and work from home, but the poor have to get up and go to work during peak hours, so they’re basically paying for the road that the rich man drives on last.

Josh Clark

Exactly. That’s exactly right, and that’s the big problem, I mean, aside from having to pay to drive with a congestion tax. What else can you do, Chuck, and also remember we were talking – this isn’t just highways, it’s surface streets too, everybody, don’t get all anxious; we’re talking about surface streets as well.

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