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How Muppets Work | August 27, 2009

 
Chuck Bryant

No wires. This is not a marionette. Pretty cool!

Josh Clark

It was pretty cool.

Chuck Bryant

I love that. Then they did scenes where they were riding bicycles. In some cases, I think they had to have – I think they call it Muppet switching – where they had a full-body Muppet that they would occasionally have to use the marionette wires.

Josh Clark

Or they would have a little person in it.

Chuck Bryant

Or they would have a little person, or they would use a remote control, which came a little bit later.

Josh Clark

Also, this is my favorite. When they had a Muppet driving a car, the car was actually being driven, so the Muppet would be in the front seat. The Muppeteer would be crouched down in the back seat operating the Muppet. Then there would be a little person in the trunk driving the car with remote control.

Chuck Bryant

Looking at a video screen.

Josh Clark

They’re actually extremely sophisticated. What they have to do – this is incredibly complex. You have to know exactly what’s going to happen in every scene. Then you have to build the set to accommodate a human person and a Muppet and their Muppeteer, so there may be several different levels. This sounds very dangerous.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

Josh Clark

Then the Muppeteer as well, they had – and they have had since the 70s – monitors strapped to their chests so they can see what their Muppet is doing.

Chuck Bryant

Which is all backwards?

Josh Clark

It is backward. So they have to know if they are looking at the screen and they want their Muppet to move left, they have to move right.

Chuck Bryant

Very complicated.

Josh Clark

I imagine that the wiring, the neural connections of these people’s brains are very unusual. If you could slap them in a wonder machine and take a look at them next to one of ours, I bet you’d notice dome real distinctions.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah. We should write an article on Muppeteer’s brains. That would be good. You’re dead on. One of the Muppeteers – there’s been about 100 of them – one of them Dave Goelz said. “It takes maybe five years to do everything without thinking about it. In fact, I still find it difficult.” Frank Oz said, “What you’re doing is so complicated that you really don’t have time to think about what you’re doing. First your body understands. Then your mind grasps what you’re doing, sometimes.” So very complicated stuff!

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