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How Hostage Negotiation Works | November 26, 2009

 
Chuck Bryant

That’s how you know I’m in the [inaudible].

Josh Clark

That’s – that’s his voice right there, Coolio.

Chuck Bryant

Uh-huh. This is double good luck.

Josh Clark

Okay. Well, good. Then this should probably be a pretty good podcast.

Chuck Bryant

Which means we are doomed.

Josh Clark

Yes.

Chuck Bryant

Josh, before we get going, can I just mention a little TV show coming up?

Josh Clark

The Road to Punkin Chunkin and Punkin Chunkin itself?

Chuck Bryant

Naturally.

Josh Clark

Yeah.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah. And that, Josh, is Thanksgiving night. If you’re bored after your turkey on the Science Channel at 8:00 p.m. -

Josh Clark

Uh-huh. Starting at 8:00 – 8:00 eastern time, right?

Chuck Bryant

Yeah. So insert clever intro.

Josh Clark

Chuck, have you ever been a hostage?

Chuck Bryant

No.

Josh Clark

Nor have I.

Chuck Bryant

I would remember that, I think.

Josh Clark

I’ll bet you would.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

Josh Clark

Have you ever seen Inside Man?

Chuck Bryant

No. Is that – which one was that?

Josh Clark

Denzel.

Chuck Bryant

No. I didn’t see that.

Josh Clark

Clive Owen.

Chuck Bryant

I wanted to.

Josh Clark

Dude, that is -

Chuck Bryant

Is it?

Josh Clark

In my opinion. I haven’t seen Dog Day Afternoon, but I think it’s the greatest hostage movie ever made.

Chuck Bryant

You haven’t seen Dog Day Afternoon?

Josh Clark

No, Chuck. I’m not 70 like you.

Chuck Bryant

Oh, I forgot that they burned all the copies in 1985 when you were born.

Josh Clark

In the great fire started by Al Pacino.

Chuck Bryant

Dog Day Afternoon was gold. You should check it out even though it’s -

Josh Clark

I will check it out.

Chuck Bryant

- you know a hundred-year-old movie.

Josh Clark

No. I’m sure it’s good. That was Pacino at his prime.

Chuck Bryant

Sure.

Josh Clark

Yeah. Before he just went absolutely nuts.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

Josh Clark

Well, okay, neither one of us has been a hostage.

Chuck Bryant

Or seen each other’s movies.

Josh Clark

Right. But – no, we both have seen War Games.

Chuck Bryant

Oh, yeah, true.

Josh Clark

But I can imagine that if either one of us were a hostage, there would be a hostage negotiator outside.

Chuck Bryant

Right. I – I would be dead pretty soon, I think, if I were a hostage.

Josh Clark

A pizza delivery person could have delivered that – that segue better than me.

Chuck Bryant

Yeah.

Josh Clark

Yeah.

Chuck Bryant

In 30 minutes or less.

Josh Clark

Yeah.

Chuck Bryant

So yeah, Josh, let’s talk about hostage negotiation. I can’t say that word.

Josh Clark

Negotiations.

Chuck Bryant

Negotiations.

Josh Clark

Yes, Chuck, let’s.

Chuck Bryant

It is – there’s a few things going on. Usually, the hostage-taker is – wants something.

Josh Clark

They want money or they want to free their brothers that are political prisoners or they want safe passage or something like t
hat.

Chuck Bryant

Right. Or they want some country to stop some policy it has.

Josh Clark

Sure. Sure.

Chuck Bryant

And usually, the target of the hostage-taker is not the hostage, but some other third party.

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